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What gender is Cheese? Sega and Archie Screwed this one up.

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 03:01 PM

In Shadow the Hedgehog Cheese was reffered to as a boy, but in the Sonic X comics (issue 5 last I checked) I noticed that they reffer to Cheese as a Girl. So what is it?

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 03:11 PM

Who really gives a shit? But since anything, I would go with Shadow's take on it's gender over a comic...

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 03:12 PM

Er... it's a Chao. I thought they - like NiGHTS - were supposed to be genderless.

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 03:17 PM

Archie pretty much rapes everything Sonic related, so I'd go with Cheese being a guy.

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 03:42 PM

As stupid as question as it is, I'm going to answer it:Chao reincarnate. They don't reproduce. That makes them genderless. This means, of course, that the total number of Chao in the world can never increase, and thus begs the question of how a multitude of them came into existence. They may have once been able to breed asexually, perhaps they were created, or perhaps they are living manifestations of Chaos energy.It is also interesting to note that some, albeit weak, evidence suggests that all [[non-human]] life on Sonic's Earth evolved from Chao. Chaos was almost certainly either created by the Chao, or a futher evolved "Chaos Chao." Note Chaos' ability to harness the Chaos Emeralds. A "Sonic Chao" may have evolved into the first hedgehog (taking on gender at the same time it ceased to be a Chao). This would start to explain both how Sonic is able to harness the Chaos Emeralds, and how ancient people predicted that Sonic would exist. He simply has a fully-predictable genetic throwback. Of course, this requires there to have once been many, MANY more Chao than there currrently are.Holy fuck am I a geek...

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 04:16 PM

EXCUSE me? Chao DO reproduce, though I have never seen it happen.Also, Chao do have gender, though the only girl Chao I know is the Fortune-Teller.

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 04:30 PM

WHO. THE. FUCK. CARES?

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 04:45 PM

View PostSSUK, on Mar 9 2006, 04:30 PM, said:

WHO. THE. FUCK. CARES?
I like that opinion the most. Who cares what a chao is. If you play SA2 in the chao garden, you can have whatever you want your chao to be. They can be straigh couples, gay couples, lesbian couples but they still make babies. Same with Cheese. Who knows although it is probably a boy if anything because what girl wears a tie around their neck?

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 05:54 PM

Well, he isn't a HomoChao, that's for sure.

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 06:09 PM

View PostOmochaoAbuser, on Mar 9 2006, 03:16 PM, said:

Also, Chao do have gender, though the only girl Chao I know is the Fortune-Teller.
Gender-indentification is not the same thing as gender. Besides, a gender-less species likely does not understand gender, and thus does not realize that wearing a bowtie/dress would make them seem male/female.

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 06:13 PM

SSUK wins.

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 06:13 PM

According to Joe Edkin, writer of the Sonic X comics, the materials 4kids provided to the staff of the comic for reference purposes referred to Cheese as a 'she'; however, during the approval process apparently it was pointed out by their SEGA correspondant that Cheese was male too late for issue #5 to be fully corrected. Hence the confusion caused.. apparently from the next issue onwards, this mistake will be rectified.

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 06:54 PM

View PostServantes, on Mar 9 2006, 03:09 PM, said:

Put simply, a recently hatched Chao does not have a mother or a father, it has two Smizmars.
Please captain. I thank Leela for the DNA she gave me but in my species, the true parent is the one that inspired the initial feeling of love. We call that person the smizmar. And my smizmar is Amy.[/quote]Props for the Futurama refrence, but there still is technially is DNA transfer in Kif's species. But I get what you mean.No glove, no love... lol

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 01:27 AM

Chao come from eggs. Eggs come from sexual reproduction.Posted Image

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 03:47 AM

Ahahahaha, Chao reproduction. Never had it so good.

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 12:31 PM

It is like the question why the Chao eggs are much bigger then the Chao.

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 12:38 PM

View PostMcAleeCh, on Mar 9 2006, 05:13 PM, said:

According to Joe Edkin, writer of the Sonic X comics, the materials 4kids provided to the staff of the comic for reference purposes referred to Cheese as a 'she'; however, during the approval process apparently it was pointed out by their SEGA correspondant that Cheese was male too late for issue #5 to be fully corrected. Hence the confusion caused.. apparently from the next issue onwards, this mistake will be rectified.
Quoted for truth. 4Kids referred to Cheese as a "she" in the Sonic X dub because they're morons, and Archie had to work with their translations, thus resulting in the error.

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 12:51 PM

Lesson learned: WHO GIV-- Oh wait... Yeah... That and... 4Kids fuck everything up.

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 01:31 PM

View PostServantes, on Mar 9 2006, 03:42 PM, said:

Chao reincarnate. They don't reproduce. That makes them genderless.
I swear chao mate.. they grow flowers and everything.. it was how you got the copper chao by breeding a gold with the black chao in SA..

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 02:41 PM

Well now I'm glad this is cleared up. Thanks.

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