Posted in first post on 10/13/06UPDATE: 06/01/06: Wow, has it really been six months already, and still I'm finding new stuff? That's awesome! Anywho, I've gone through this first post and kind of cleaned it up, fixed text errors and kind of grouped simmilar things together. Also, after six months, You'd think the Honey section would have been updated... Although, I think they're waiting for me to make it @_@... Enjoy the new, revamped topic...Click here for the Fighting Vipers stuff I found! I didn't want to start another topic, since It's all model2b hackings!First, the character values, which were originally found by BlueBlur:00 - Sonic01 - Tails02 - Amy03 - Metal Sonic04 - Fang05 - Bark06 - Knuckles07 - Espio08 - Eggman - CRASH09 - Eggman - CRASH0A - Bean0B - Eggman in his final stage robot0C - Eggman in a UFO shaped robot - CRASH0D - Eggman - CRASHOE - Rocket Metal - Crash0F - Honey (????) - Crash10 - Super SonicThe following values were found by me, and listed in the topic on 01/02/06:11 - 19 is filler Sonic characters with Default moves1A - Mirror Sonic1B - Mirror Tails1C - Mirror Amy1D - Mirror Metal Sonic (not gray and no moves)1E - Mirror Fang1F - Mirror Bark20 - Mirror Knuckles21 - Mirror Espio22 - Mirror Eggman (not gray and no moves)23 - What should be a big Eggman mirror version is a filler Sonic, proving my theory about him being the title screen version.24 - Mirror Bean25 - Mirror Final Eggman (not gray and no moves)26 - Mirror UFO Eggman (not gray and no moves)27 - Mirror Eggman minnion (not gray and no moves and WTF? Emulator crashes on hit? Star[/url]ts with stars circling him in beginning)28 - Mirror Metal Rocket (not gray and no moves. Starts with stars circling him in beginning)29 - Mirror Honey ( IN FRIGGIN ORIGINAL COLORS!!!!!!!. No moves. Starts with stars circling her in beginning. Do I REALLY need further proof to prove Honey should have been a bonus character in the Saturn version?)2A - Messed Up Mirror Sonic the Hedgehog (body is not gray and no moves. Starts with stars circling him in beginning. Flops.... which is weird.... The flop can acutally hurt the enemy.)2B - 33 Same as Messed up Mirror Sonic34 - FF - All same error.Now, topic:Yeah, the topic was erased in the old fourms, but I can now repost my info. Thanks to Becky for keeping her fourm alive to the point where I could copy and paste everything. Oh, and for the image. [EDIT: This topic was actually deleted from Sonic CulT once before, but recovered when Sapzimon posted a backup of the old fourms]pic of honeyAfter doing some research, I am very happy. Now I will reveal my findings.1.Why is Honey's head tilted and almost always looking at the camera? It's because she only has one pupil that switches to the side the camera is on:http://img357.images...230936142xx.pnghttp://img399.images...231622454ot.pngNote: This only happens pretty much when she is standing still, however, I have spotted a second pupil, but there are times where just one pupil switches from one to another. [Since this original post back in November, the pupil situation has been fully explained:]EDIT: I UNDERSTAND IT NOW! ALL OF IT! The eyes, why they do such weird things! It's because all the characters have many sets of eyes in them that rotate!! That way, it just turns to whichever eye action is needed. I found that out playing Rocket Metal!http://img245.images...124306702ms.pnghttp://img245.images...124310510uz.pnghttp://img312.images...124335424oe.pnghttp://img312.images...124702379fh.pngIn this last image, you can see the other sets of eyes, but just slightly.2.What animal is she? I believe she is a cat. Why? She hase a hare-lip.[This too has been updated with more evidence:]YET ANOTHER IMPORTANT UPDATE! HONEY IS IN FACT A CAT!http://bbs.ee.ntu.edu.tw/boards/TVGame/3/9/5.html said:
biggestsonicfan said:
Update 05/24/06:I found ingame name calls to character values! Interesting:00 - SONIC01 - TAILS02 - AMY03 - METAL04 - FANG05 - KUMA (Bark, "Kuma" means "bear" in Japanese, hence the multiple Japanese usage [Thank you Wikipedia!])06 - KNUCKLE07 - ESPIO08 - EGGMAN09 - EGGMANB0A - BEAN0B - EGG_ROB10C - DUM40D - DUM5OE - DUM60F - HONEY10 - DUM811 - DUM912 - DUM1013 - DUM1114 - DUM1215 - DUM1316 - DUM1417 - DUM1518 - DUM1619 - DUM171A - SONIC_I1B - TAILS_I1C - AMY_I1D - METAL_I1E - FANG_I1F - KUMA_I20 - KNUCKLE_I21 - ESPIO_I22 - EGGMAN_I23 - EGGMANB_I24 - BEAN_I25 - EGG_ROB1_I26 - DUM4_I27 - DUM5_I28 - DUM6_I29 - HONEY_I2A - DUM8_I2B - DUM8_I2C - DUM9_I2D - DUM10_I2E - DUM11_I2F - DUM12_I30 - DUM13_I31 - DUM14_I32 - DUM15_I33 - DUM16_I34 - DUM17_IInteresting, because value 34 can't load.... This also pretty much proves all DUM values were never intended to be playable. So 0C - 0E (UFO Eggman, Eggman's Minion, and Rocket Metal) all were not to be playable characters. Weither or not you fought Eggman's minion can still be up for debate (see my theories in first post), but I believe this is the 100% proof that Honey was to be a playable character. More updates as I find them.I present to you name calls to levels:[Note: The values do not match the level names, so I have adjusted them accordingly, thus, I am not using hex values, also, I have yet to confirm these values with the names I have given them.]00 - DUMMY (Giant Wing)01 - EISLAND (South Island)02 - KINOKO (Mushroom Hill) [Kinoko means "mushroom" in Japanese]03 - EGYPT (Flying Carpet)04 - FACTORY (Dynamyte Plant)05 - [blank]06 - PINBALL (Casino Night)07 - NORTH_POLE (Aurora Icefield)08 - [blank]09 - [blank]10 - [blank]11 - [blank]12 - [blank]13 - [blank]14 - ADV_MOVIE (Intro) [Confirmed]15 - ADV_MOV2 (Either flight to the Death Egg, or ending sequence)16 - [blank](Now they just are numbered.... for some reason) 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 2728 - COLLOSEUM (Metal Sonic/Final Eggman level(s)) 2930 - SNOW (O_o.... no idea.... hmmmm)31 ..... 9798 - NORMAL (I would assume character select screen)99 - NAMEENTRY (Uh, Name Entry screen after getting a high score)Where is Canyon Cruise? ... O_o ... It must be one of the blanks, I will find out which one it is soon.[Added 06/09/06]WTF? FLICKYS??!?!? Indeed....
This post has been edited by biggestsonicfan: 02 July 2007 - 01:14 AM

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And a stunning photo of Naka I found O_o (Very off topic)
BTW, I have a download to get Honey in Fighters in Beta test works! Keep your fingers crossed!!!