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Eric Wright
In my experience, and disregarding IceKnight's obscure thread about the Genesis sound output, the Genesis model 1 seems to have clearer music capabilities than the model 2... I frankly don't really give a shit as to WHY, but it's the reason for the project I want to do.

I know it's already been done before, but for a long time I've wanted to hard wire a 32x and Genesis together into one console so that I never again have to worry about tower-jiggle, the loose white cables, and other assorted BULLSHIT that most of us here should know and love.... you know, for the rare occasion I want to play a game on the actual hardware rather than just emulating it.

I'm sure I can finagle the physical positioning of all the circuit boards inside and shit, that wouldn't be an issue; nor would all the wiring and soldering.

What I'd like to know is

1) if it's physically, and realistically, possible to get s-video output from the 32x. I've done a little searching around and it seems like the only main video signals the hardware is directly capable of are composite and that weird-ass scart shit. has anyone here attempted this before?

2) if the 32x is region-free in and of itself, and it relies on whatever region signal the Genesis gives it to determine game locale. I did the region modification to my Nomad and multiple saturns, so I'm sure it's easy enough to do it to a regular Genesis, but I'd like to know in advance if I'd need to do anything to the 32x

3) if I have to do anything wacky when I connect it to a Sega CD. now, my model 2 Genesis will send an audio signal through the extention port and out Sega CD's RCA output jacks... does the Model 1 not do that, since there's that patch cable bullshit? I've never used a model 1 with a sega CD before.


Also, just a passing thought, Local H or Sanik or someone modified roms of Sonic 1 and 2 at one point to make the entire game play in the interlaced mode, and the picture came out a lot clearer... have they done this with any of the other sonic games? Have they figured out the video-mode triggers in general so they could maybe make a patching program to process ANY rom?

Come on, there have got to be SOME hardware gurus still kicking around here on the forums...
P.P.A.
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1) if it's physically, and realistically, possible to get s-video output from the 32x. I've done a little searching around and it seems like the only main video signals the hardware is directly capable of are composite and that weird-ass scart shit. has anyone here attempted this before?

I don't know. But it can do RGB and composite without any problems (and if you have the former, there'd be no need for S-Video anyway).
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2) if the 32x is region-free in and of itself, and it relies on whatever region signal the Genesis gives it to determine game locale. I did the region modification to my Nomad and multiple saturns, so I'm sure it's easy enough to do it to a regular Genesis, but I'd like to know in advance if I'd need to do anything to the 32x

I have an American 32X sitting on a modded PAL Mega Drive II. When playing a US copy of Chaotix, it runs fine in both English/60 and Japanese/60 modes, and moreso in the latter the tutorial suddenly becomes Japanese! I don't have any Japanese 32X games to prove it 100%, but seeing how the 32X works perfectly fine in both modes (and is compatible with a Mega-CD II set to these as well) I'd say that it's region-free for these two. However when switching my console back to English/50 (PAL) it refuses to run at all or all the output is totally fucked. Haven't tried with a PAL 32X game, but I don't think that would change much.
Eric Wright
well I don't have RGB, I think that's a much more widespread european thing. My TV has component input, that's different from the RGB output that the genesis creates (supposedly)

Also, sounds like the 32x has difficulty in 50hz, but considering there are no european exclusives that I'm particularly concerned about, I guess it wouldn't be a total loss. Unless someone could find the 50/60hz jumpers or whatever in the 32x :P
Overlord
I'm sure I remember an American on Retro using RGB output on his TV. It really doesn't help that NTSC is such a shitty TV standard - PAL60 shits all over it.

If you can manage better than Svideo, do it - it's really much better.

As for the 32X, here's Cosmic Carnage (E) (!).32x on an emulated Japanese 32X:

<img src=http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k103/Overlord44/cosmic_carnage_e_on_jp.png>

Yes, the system has region locking.

As for your Mega CD question - no fucking clue. =P
Eric Wright
but Im saying does the 32x adopt whatever region code the genesis has... that's what hasn't been confirmed other than a site I found that said an NTSC 32x didnt wanna work with a pal machine


As far as the RGB output, the RGB that the genesis makes is not the same as the component signal most standard consumer TV's are designed to accept. NTSC is good, but PAL60 is better, I admit... problem is this old hardware only knows composite ntsc, some kind of normal regular shitty PAL, and the RGB stuff. And i dont want to buy a 170 dollar converter box to convert an RGB signal :P
Overlord
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but Im saying does the 32x adopt whatever region code the genesis has... that's what hasn't been confirmed other than a site I found that said an NTSC 32x didnt wanna work with a pal machine

Ah. Fair point, no idea. I would test with my PAL 32X but I have no foreign Megadrives to compare to =P

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PAL60 is better, I admit... problem is this old hardware only knows composite ntsc, some kind of normal regular shitty PAL, and the RGB stuff. And i dont want to buy a 170 dollar converter box to convert an RGB signal :P

You can't put a price on purity, man! *shot*
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