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Kairi
Waninkoko (Wad Installer/Manager) has released what could be called a "custom firmware" it has enabled NON-modified Wii's to load off burnt dvd's so far the only app that supports it is one he has released.

A modified version of gensplus that uses the modified IOS to load roms off a burnt dvd

It can be uninstalled at anytime with his uninstaller, it seems that we could have a ISO loader app coming real soon, or maybe dvd movie support.

Check it out here

EDIT: Seems like at lot of hopefull people assumed what thew custom IOS does without testing it

The custom IOS lets homebrew apps read from the dvd drive from non-encrypted data on a burnt dvd hence the ability to load roms off a dvd on the new gens plus, but this only applies to modified wii's. It seems that it’s not possible for a softmod to make a unmodified wii to read burnt discs. But this should make ISO loaders from USB etc easier to make.

There is meant to be more features released very shortly.

Oh I forgot if you want to install this custom IOS you need IOS37 so it can patch it which can be a pain in the ass to find but you can find it here sorry its rapidshare.

SSUK: If you on about the 3.3 update all Nintendo done is remove the twilight hack but there is already a new version released that works. Plus if you uninstalled all the tickets from wads etc there’s nothing to worry about.
SSUK
I will wait until the next firmware update, see if Nintendo is going to start bricking consoles before I attempt any of this. That and the fact I don't actually have an SD card which the Twilight Hack will read from...
GrandMasterJimmy
I find it pretty safe, because you can uninstall it, and you have to agree to firmware upgrades. You can just disconnect fr5om wireless, and they can't brick you.
SSUK
If you didn't update to 3.3 should Wii units still have IOS37? So I don't have to patch my console? I didn't update because of the Twilight Hack block, but I did update to the version that works post-3.3 since it fixes the annoying PAL screen issue which meant text over-shot the bottom of the screen in 60Hz mode, thus you can't see it. Which meant all errors I got couldn't be seen.

I've been meaning to ask this anyway, I've been trying to run .elf files from the chainloader for ages now. My current set up is a FAT 16 formatted MicroSD card in a standard SD card adapter. The Wii accepts the SD card itself, after I installed the chainloader, I formatted the card again (and have done so several times since) and placed all the .elf files for the Twilight Hack to read on the root directory or as they require... Yet I either get two outcomes from the Twilight Hack. I get a screen full of read messages and then it eventually stops, claiming an error or it displays information about the SD card as all blank. I have used various different apps like the Homebrew Channel installer, Genisis emulator and various other things, but all got the same thing.

Am I doing something wrong? Me using the internet for the longest time have turned to Google for answers, but I just found out that people HAVE used MicroSD cards and adapters with the Twilight Hack with success. I've also tried formatting the SD card with the official SD group card formatter to FAT16, but that usually just corrupts the card and Windows can't read it afterwards (which is useless, because I need it to in order for the files to be placed on the card). I use a 64MB Nokia branded MicroSD card and a generic SD card adapter which came with my 1GB SD card... Help please? =(
GrandMasterJimmy
2 very stupid questions, but I have seen people make these mistakes in the past.

1. You only have one elf file on the root of the card right?

2. It is named boot.elf right?

Those are the only thing's that I've seen that can cause those problems.
SSUK
Both of those were met. I read instructions very carefully and most of all, it was fairly obvious. =P

I think most of all it's a problem with the read from SD cards. I'll just quickly boot up the Twilight Hack and tell you what happens...

The card is as mentioned above with the media name: "HBREW". It has a 59.2MB capacity and is FAT16 file format. I'm using the latest Twilight Hack (0.1 beta1) with my version of Twilight Princess. I have the boot.elf for the Homebrew Channel installer on the root of the SD card and three folders set up as it directed me to.

Load up, get to Twilight Hack... checks for geckoUSB, and then:
CODE
Loading FAT:
OEM Name: , 0 bytes/sector, 0 sectors/cluster, 0 reserved sectors, 0 FATs, FAT32
Fat size = 0
FAT stars at sector 0x6964
/ starts at sector 0x       6964
Reading boot.dol:
boot.dol not found (-1), reading boot.elf:
Failed to read boot.elf (-1)!
No code found to load, hanging.


The fact it doesn't pick up the OEM name "HBREW" and that it shows the card as having 0 sectors is a worry. Then again it reads it as FAT32 when it's NOT formatted to FAT32 at all. So, I don't know. I take it it's a fault either with the card or the adapter which the Twilight Hack doesn't agree with...
GrandMasterJimmy
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I use a 64MB Nokia branded MicroSD card and a generic SD card adapter which came with my 1GB SD card... Help please? =(


Have you tried the 1GB card?

Maybe it's a SD card issue too, I know my 16mb, and 128mb cards won't work, with homebrew, but work for save games. Only my 1gb and 256mb work for homebrew.

I'd suggest asking on the wiibrew forums, maybe they could be more help.

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Link
Sometimes it's worth an idea to:

-format the SD card using the Panasonic SD card formatter ( http://www.sdcard.org/about/downloads/ ) - yes it really makes a difference, this one sets cluster sizes absolutely according to SD standard
-only put boot.elf on your sd card

install the homebrew channel, the channel has some much better FAT code
SSUK
Link, I said before that I formatted it by the Panasonic/SD Group SD card formatter, it just corrupted the SD card. I fiddled with every setting I could find. Also, it was very difficulty for me to install the homebrew channel when I couldn't even get an SD card to be read. =P

I used my 1GB card and it worked. I now have the Homebrew channel installed but wont mess with this IOS37 stuff. Bit sad the Genesis Plus emu for Wii doesn't support SD card adapters, I can't use it with my MicroSD -> SD adapter. =( But hey, at least I have it installed. Thanks for your help, everyone. Much apprechiated.
Kairi
Update

Bushing one of the main people from the wii homebrew scene seems to of found a way to potentially play backup dvds on an unmodded wii. Due to the timing it is most likely that this has stemmed from the ability to patch the IOS's but instead of releasing the information he has alerted Nintendo via email. Many people think that this could cause nintendo not only to make an update to combat this but also stop homebrew or the twilight hack (agian).
GrandMasterJimmy
Fuck, they should let people keep homebrew, since Bushing helped them out.
SSUK
Nintendo would have patched this with or without Bushing, however Bushing's interest to tell Nintendo about this is in favour of us all. The better relation homebrew communities and Nintendo have only betters non-piracy orientated homebrew applications into the future.

He's also acting under http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp/policy.html these guidelines, which were drafted as a mutual and moral middle-ground for developers/hackers who find exploits. If you read the policy it states that if, within 5 days, Nintendo does not get in contact and KEEP in contact with Bushing about the issue, he could release the exploit publicly. He's shown faith to try and tell the vendor about the issue, the ball's now in their court but not before long it'll be back in his. Don't count this as a crushing blow just yet.
SMR
QUOTE(SSUK @ Jul 17 2008, 03:35 PM) [snapback]74931[/snapback]
Nintendo would have patched this with or without Bushing, however Bushing's interest to tell Nintendo about this is in favour of us all. The better relation homebrew communities and Nintendo have only betters non-piracy orientated homebrew applications into the future.

He's also acting under http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp/policy.html these guidelines, which were drafted as a mutual and moral middle-ground for developers/hackers who find exploits. If you read the policy it states that if, within 5 days, Nintendo does not get in contact and KEEP in contact with Bushing about the issue, he could release the exploit publicly. He's shown faith to try and tell the vendor about the issue, the ball's now in their court but not before long it'll be back in his. Don't count this as a crushing blow just yet.


Precisely. It's likely that Nintendo doesn't see much of a difference between the homebrew and pirate scenes at this time, because through homebrew pirates are able to go about their business (after all, pirate software is technically homebrew software), however Bushing's choice of actually helping Nintendo, and taking into account his position as a reknowned advocate of the homebrew scene and his strong stance against "bad" piracy, may show them that those people are different and that Nintendo does not need to fight them because they don't wish to cause trouble to Nintendo.

Granted, a lot of people (including myself) would probably have liked to be able to play burnt games without the need for a hardware modification to their console, but it's probably for the best.


EDIT: Quoted the wrong post at first; fixed now.
Overlord
You lot seriously think that him telling them about the exploit will not stop them trying to crush all homebrew?
cool_boy_mew
It's fucking stupid, really. There's no way Nintendo will stop ti fight homebrew because if there's homebrew, that mean pirated VC/Wiiware games and emulators and I'm pretty sure they'll get loads of lawsuits from 3rd party.

Disregard that PSP emulator, it's obviously a fake, don't know how I didn't saw this, probably because I was tired as hell.
GrandMasterJimmy
That PSP emu is fake as hell. The wii isn't even turn on. It's in standby mode.
SSUK
QUOTE(Overlord @ Jul 18 2008, 04:55 PM) [snapback]74961[/snapback]
You lot seriously think that him telling them about the exploit will not stop them trying to crush all homebrew?

I never said that, Overlord. I fully accept that Nintendo will move to block homebrew even if we sent them a box of never-ageing kittens. However, if those among us who make these substantial break troughs for non-piracy orientated homebrew make good with Nintendo, they are far less likely to be sued for their involvement and potential facilitation of piracy. Nintendo is one company that has proven in the past that you just don't fuck with them. They've conducted countless raids on mod-chip manufacturers (one that I recall recently was last January when they raided one place looking for Wii mod-chips), retailers and on counterfeit software distributors. The last thing any homebrew activist wants right now is for Nintendo to associate them directly to software piracy in any way.

Even if they stop the Twilight Hack exploit, there'll eventually be more exploits. Maybe not right now, but as there's a wealth of games on the Wii. One of them needs to make just the tiniest mistake as seen in Twilight Princess (which was a 1st party game, for christ's sake) and we're back in business. Just like Sony and Homebrewers, just like Apple and Jailbreakers, the Wii will have it's cat-and-mouse game.
Overlord
Raiding looking for modchips? Putting aside the fact that modchips aren't illegal, I wasn't aware Nintendo had a police force at their beck and call.

QUOTE
However, if those among us who make these substantial break troughs for non-piracy orientated homebrew make good with Nintendo, they are far less likely to be sued for their involvement and potential facilitation of piracy.

I also fucking LOL'D at this. You're deluding yourself, seriously.
SSUK
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3163886
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/02/14/ni...zed_in_chinese/ / http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EI..._11/ai_97461081
http://www.dcemu.co.uk/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=104195

Overlord, I think you're highly confused. Please, pray tell, show me where I said that I believed in any of this. I have merely stated potential reasons why Bushing has made this move. However unlikely in your opinion, which so far... Seems backed up by your assumption of how the company will react. And by the looks of it, you were oblivious to Nintendo's on-going persecution of pirates.
Galaxia
IMO it just seems that Nintendo are afraid of change. it's like when the NES and the SNES were actually being sold, creating and hacking games via homebrew or emulation was incredibly difficult to do. and now with better knowledge 10-20 years down the line, we have the potential to create these things without people paying for our work. the fact Nintendo cannot control it and they cannot get money from it scares them, and instead of trying to open it with welcome arms, or at least reach compromises, they try to stab it out as soon as it appears.

it seems quite dated, what with the popularity of sites like Youtube, where people can upload their own creations free for people to watch and critique. even Sony have a 1-up on Nintendo with the whole Net Yarouze thing. they need to realize that a lot of people don't really use homebrew for piracy.
Overlord
QUOTE(SSUK @ Jul 19 2008, 07:41 PM) [snapback]75022[/snapback]
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3163886
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/02/14/ni...zed_in_chinese/ / http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EI..._11/ai_97461081
http://www.dcemu.co.uk/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=104195

Overlord, I think you're highly confused. Please, pray tell, show me where I said that I believed in any of this. I have merely stated potential reasons why Bushing has made this move. However unlikely in your opinion, which so far... Seems backed up by your assumption of how the company will react. And by the looks of it, you were oblivious to Nintendo's on-going persecution of pirates.

Oh, no, I'm perfectly aware they keep busting or trying to bust modchip sellers. However, the devices ARE NOT ILLEGAL. And I still truely believe that homebrewers helping Nintendo isn;t going to change Nintendo's attitude towards them. Not one bit.
ICEknight
Just so you know, Nintendo already contacted them a few days ago, but they still haven't given any details as far as I know.
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